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1811 Series
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Joined : May 2013
Posts : 29
Posted 10/17/2014 5:37 PM (GMT -5)
Hello All,
I have now had 3 consecutive rises in PSA in the last 9 months
3.9
5.5
6.1 (Today)
My URO is concerned , but, believes that I am experiencing the "PSA bump" having had had my BT
in 07/13.
My URO believes the chances of me having BT failure is 3% based on my stats.
In abundance of caution, he has referred me for a for a CT pelvic scan with contrast and a bone nuclear scan
of my skeleton ( whole body).
I will get these tests done in the next 2 weeks.
Looking for input, similar circumstances
Thanks in advance
Fairwind
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Joined : Jul 2010
Posts : 4107
Posted 10/17/2014 6:07 PM (GMT -5)
If Brachytherapy fails, what is the fallback position? Is there a "salvage" treatment ?
InTheShop
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Posts : 11468
Posted 10/17/2014 6:24 PM (GMT -5)
Depending on the radiation dose in the first BT, sometimes beam radiation can be used as a "salvage."
At least my brother's URO told us that when he had BT.
Best to get the scans and see if anything shows ups. If the PC has escaped the prostate bed, then you've got a different game to play - HT and the other drugs.
What you need is better information. It's possible it's a "bump."
Tall Allen
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Posted 10/17/2014 6:43 PM (GMT -5)
I can certainly see why your RO is skeptical about
a recurrence, given your original stats and the rapid rise in PSA in the last few months. I would be wondering more about
urinary retention or prostatitis, both of which may cause rapid PSA elevations like that. Any problems with urination? Perhaps discuss with your doctor taking a course of antibiotics, and if that doesn't bring PSA down, maybe a cystoscopy.
LDR brachy, HDR brachy and SBRT have all been used as salvage after a biopsy-confirmed clinical progression. But that's getting ahead of yourself.
- Allen
browntrout
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Posted 10/17/2014 7:17 PM (GMT -5)
1811: it is hard to disagree with your Doc with your favorable stats. I vote "bump but would not rule out the other possibilities that Tall Allen has pointed out.
The only thing I would add is Cryotherapy as an option should it be needed.
http://prostate-cancer.org/PDFs/Is14-3_p18-21.pdf
I wish you the very best and please keep us posted.
F8
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Posted 10/17/2014 7:33 PM (GMT -5)
Fairwind -- if BT fails what are the chances that the cancer is still local? BTW, I'm in the bump camp.
ed
1811 Series
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Posted 10/17/2014 7:48 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks for all the great replies and advice so far-
No urinary issues and I have been SE free-
My flow is actually better now than pre- BT
Felt fine bodily at diagnosis and feel fine now- no issue indicators
Today's DRE shows prostate has shrunk and flattened out a bit which according to my URO is how it should be
a year out
My RO has 30 years experience and is widely regarded as the best seed planter in my area.
I am not a shoulda, woulda, coulda type individual
I did my due diligence and made the best decision I could based on medical advice received and my research
The lesson here is that not all Gleason 6 cases behave as they are supposed to in regards to treatment
Even with the best care uncertainties occur
This disease is insidious and vigilance is the watchword of today and the future
Tall Allen
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Posted 10/17/2014 9:03 PM (GMT -5)
Don't you think it worthwhile to try a course of antibiotics before leaping to conclusions? Prostatitis is most often asymptomatic. It also often doesn't respond to antibiotics, but it seems a small enough precaution to prevent a possibly unnecessary biopsy.
- Allen
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Posted 10/17/2014 9:06 PM (GMT -5)
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1811 Series
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Posted 10/17/2014 10:03 PM (GMT -5)
TA-
As always I respect your opinion and your expertise
I will speak to my URO on Monday morning and hopefully get a RX
For a course of antibiotics
Thanks everyone!
PDL17
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Posted 10/18/2014 10:56 PM (GMT -5)
I would also vote bump.
Try using naproxen 440mg twice daily for 3 weeks prior to your next PSA. Anti-inflammatories may reduce the effect of the bump.
Paul
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