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English Alf
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Posted 3/31/2016 8:15 AM (GMT -5)
Went to the uro department once again yesterday and was once again told that my PSA is undetectable.
This means we are now approaching 7 (yup SEVEN!!!!) years since my surgery and 6 years since my SRT.
My PSA has thus been undetectable for over 5 years and so they told me yesterday that this is now the point at which they feel they no longer need to see me and that in future my PSA tests can be arranged via my GP and can be done annually instead of every 6 months.
They made it clear too, that if I still want to see one of them, then that would not be a problem and I should can just phone and make an appointment.
So I guess I may become an even more infrequent visitor to HW.
Alf
Ken
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Posted 3/31/2016 8:26 AM (GMT -5)
Great News!
English Alf said...
...So I guess I may become an even more infrequent visitor to HW.
Alf
Hope you don't take a leave of absence.
Success stories and insight are always appreciated and needed.
JNF
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Posted 3/31/2016 8:28 AM (GMT -5)
Great news and continued success.
Just because your uro is kicking you aside doesn't mean you can't stay here. Our tent is infinite and always in need of experienced compassionate people like you that can help a lot of people with their decisions.
Best wishes,
Jack
InTheShop
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Posted 3/31/2016 8:46 AM (GMT -5)
Great news.
Hang around for awhile - you've got a lot to share.
Andrew
BillyBob@388
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Posted 3/31/2016 11:11 AM (GMT -5)
Alf, that is fantastic!
And do I understand that you got all the way up to .4 before SRT was instituted? Hooray for you Bro!
logoslidat
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Posted 3/31/2016 11:16 AM (GMT -5)
Yes a true recurrence is cured by radiation. It happens…and cleanly!
FrackMe
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Posted 3/31/2016 2:08 PM (GMT -5)
I love reading stories like this. Congrats!
Chask
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Posted 3/31/2016 2:14 PM (GMT -5)
Fabulous news, especially for a "young" guy.
Go enjoy life and check us out once in a while. You can offer a lot of hope to those still struggling.
Pratoman
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Posted 3/31/2016 2:48 PM (GMT -5)
Alf congratulations. "You don't need us any more and just test psa once a year" are the words we all long to hear. So glad you heard them
Tim G
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Posted 3/31/2016 4:44 PM (GMT -5)
Alf-- Your biopsy results were similar to mine, but I had no recurrence. Your success story is instructive to anyone who has to do SRT. All the best to you!
Steve n Dallas
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Posted 4/1/2016 3:14 AM (GMT -5)
Way to go!!!
English Alf
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Posted 4/10/2016 2:54 AM (GMT -5)
Billy Bob - yes my PSA had risen to 0.4 when they said that I had to do SRT.
However, it would perhaps be helpful to look at the time line:
I had surgery on 27th July 2009.
My first post-surgery check-up was 6th August 2009 when they told me that the PCa had spread to the seminal vesicles, thus the docs and I were already geared up to expect "bad news".
My first check-up to tell me my PSA was on 17th November 2009 - it was 0.1 (blood actually taken on 10th November)
This is quite a while ago and at that point the hospital had a protocol not to recommend SRT until the PSA had risen to or above 0.2.
So they sent me home, but sort of with the message to get myself as fit and healthy as possible and come back in 3 months.
Thus I reached the point where I had no incontinence and no ED.
Then on 17 March 2010 (blood taken on 10th March) they told me my PSA had gone up to 0.4.
Thus SRT recommended, and the urology department made an appointment for me to see the RT guys within 10 minutes of me being told my PSA was 0.4
I saw the RT doc on the 23rd March 2010, and my 33 sessions of SRT were already finished by 11th June.
On 3rd November 2010 they told me my PSA was undetectable and it's been like that since. (But I do now have a little ED and enough incontinence to need to wear pads 24/7 just to be safe.)
So I see it as a case of my PSA simply having jumped from marginal to 0.4 when they decided to give me the further treatment they had already been considering, rather than that anyone had simply let it get that high before acting.
Alf
81GyGuy
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Posted 4/10/2016 12:05 PM (GMT -5)
"... So I guess I may become an even more infrequent visitor to HW."
Alf –
So glad to hear of your good results!
But may I echo a sentiment already expressed in an earlier post, that you consider staying on here on the forum, as sharing your experience may be of great value to people visiting here in the future?
A particular reason that you might want to consider for staying on is that HW PC is not just an American discussion forum, but is indeed fortunate enough to have active members from the UK, Canada, Australia, to name but a few, and as well from other countries. In your case, aren't you a Briton still living in the Netherlands?
Having this international perspective here on the forum is not only a reminder that this illness knows no national boundaries, but it as well provides us with the opportunity to hear other views on treatments, policies, cultural differences (such how things are done elsewhere, etc.), and is thus an all-around benefit for everyone.
So "don't be a stranger" as the saying goes, and please do continue to stick around, and be a part of this remarkable group.
Cyclone-ISU
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Posted 4/10/2016 12:50 PM (GMT -5)
Dear English Alf,
From your original post, I also have the experience that you describe ... as my treatments have continued, my medical oncologist has become the "pilot of my airplane" in terms of treatments ... and my original urologist now has the role of "co-pilot" ---
In my case, the original ADT shots were administered in the urology department --- but they needed a certified oncology nurse to administer the shots, so I always had to wait for an oncology nurse to arrive to administer the shots in the urology department.
As time went on, I pursued chemo treatments, under the direction of my medical oncologist --- so, soon enough, we simply decided to have all those treatments done right there --- in the oncology department. My urologist is still a member of my medical team and has tremendous expertise --- but my primary care has now definitely shifted over to the oncology department.
I'll echo the sentiments of our brother 81GyGuy --- all of us value the contributions of "foreign correspondents" from "across the pond" like you --- it helps those of us here in the United States glean more of a global perspective --- and allows all of us to experience that common bond of brotherhood with our brothers from other countries and continents. It ALSO helps us gain perspective into how healthcare is handled in other localities and which treatment strategies and medications have become universal.
Case in point --- in just the past few days, we've had posts here from Norway, Greece, Scotland, and India. It's amazing that this website reaches across all the 50 states --- but also across the world. So --- keep your international passport updated, your room key in your pocket, and be sure to check into the "HEALING WELL HOTEL" from time to time ---
All my best sent to you, from across the Atlantic Ocean,
"Cyclone" From Iowa State University
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Posted 4/10/2016 12:57 PM (GMT -5)
Alf,
Just thinking back to those days when we were comparing notes every night -
Great news! But you are NOT allowed to give up HW! I look for your posts still.
mikey1955
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Posted 4/10/2016 2:37 PM (GMT -5)
Hi Alf...Congratulations!
Aimzee
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Posted 4/10/2016 10:31 PM (GMT -5)
Oh, Alf - I am just so happy to hear this news! There's that Johnny Mathias song, "Wonderful, wonderful!" Your news fits the song perfectly. You were part of that group that would always be here when I (and Ron) needed to be here. Thank you for all you did, and a huge congratulations!!
English Alf
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Posted 4/10/2016 11:23 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks for all the good wishes.
Yes still a Brit in NL!
I wasn't implying that I was going to be leaving HW, it's simpy that the evidence shows that I have been coming here less. I have had fewer things I have needed or wanted advice about
, and PCa is, amazingly, no longer something that I think about
24/7.
Also it has been so long since I received any treatment that I worry that modern methods and procedures mean that my personal experience may be out of date.
I have always been one of those to point out (especially to new folk) that HW can give you the idea that PCa is worse than you think because it's often the case that it's only the people with problems that ever come here in the first place. Those without probems are not surfing the net looking for solutions.
(For instance, my browsing history shows that I spent a while yesterday searching the web for tips about
looking after my grape vines, whose buds are just bursting, and looking for climbing plants suitable for a very cold damp shady spot in the opposite corner of our garden!)
Alf
SpecialLady
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Posted 4/11/2016 1:23 AM (GMT -5)
Hi Alf, congratulations! Happy for you! Very cold damp shady spot in our part of the world, what a surprise (grinning) Take your vitamin D!
Newton451
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Posts : 553
Posted 4/11/2016 5:36 AM (GMT -5)
Hey Alf....a HUGE congrats to you. Cancer free is your new normal.
You do have to keep coming here though.....afterall, if the survivors don't hang out in here and continue to contribute, then, survival will be considered an urban legend, and we can't have that!
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