Kegels, 3 kinds ...

I wonder if it has been discussed here, but these two guys (a physiotherapist and a specialist nurse) indicate that kegeling is not just kegeling, however, 3 parts of the pelvic floor are players in that game: The part that feels around the anus, the part that feels "in the middle" (the perineum) and the part which kind of "clamps" the penis. (Or should clamp it ...)

And actually it is especially by controlling the 2 last ones you will gain control of urination.

Anyway: kegeling is not just one forcefull tightening down there, you must know the difference between these 3 parts of the pelvic floor.

The interesting part in the long video you'll find (imo) from 4:40 to about 16:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCTRhQQ_g8
and:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHwVglPQR_w

(I am not sure that these links will work as written here, so I write them below once more for copy-pasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlCTRhQQ_g8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHwVglPQR_w[url]

Thx for the interesting link, Martin.

You are absolutely right about the different squeezes. In the beginning it was a bit tricky to release the anus part to pass gas and in the same time squeeze the urethra to not leak there. After a while it is fully automatic, you don't think about it anymore.

Leaking while walking is my biggest challenge at this point. I am working on posture which he suggests in the video and that seems to make a little difference. The issue with tightening the kegel while walking is eventually you have to release it and that is when I get the leakage.

Its a work in progress

raypaul said...
Leaking while walking is my biggest challenge at this point. I am working on posture which he suggests in the video and that seems to make a little difference. The issue with tightening the kegel while walking is eventually you have to release it and that is when I get the leakage.

Its a work in progress

This is so true: You can not squeeze forever! And walking was my biggest challenge, I leaked like a sieve even squeezing hard. And that used to worry me a lot: am I going to have to consciously squeeze forever? The answer, for most of us, is NO! Other than the occasional bladder spasm that I still suffer from which requires swift action and clamping down, or maybe in prep for any sudden move like hopping up out of a chair or lifting something heavy, I normally walk around, even with a fairly full bladder, with no conscious contraction at all. I can even hike off trail up and down steep hills. All, at least most of the time, without a thought. And since I am not trying to squeeze all day long, this leaves me plenty of muscle strength left for the occasion when I do need to do a quick clamp down. This most likely will be you guys, either sooner or later, or you might do even better.

I think at least the first video, should be required watching for anyone that has had RALP.

I learned a lot from it, and actually have been doing some of the ideas(phasing), trying to hold my bladder for longer periods, and adding volume of fluids.

Stuart Baptist - my Urol sent me there to do their pelvic floor program. He's well regarded.