Halbert says. . . "Not exactly: taking care of ourselves--eating healthy, exercise, etc.,
is all valuable. However, to claim that adjusting one's diet by adding 3 blueberries a
day, or something like that, will prevent cancer recurrence is not particularly helpful
or beneficial."

I agree, that would not be helpful. I'm unaware of any association of fruit and cancer
recurrence. I do believe that the addition of a small number of "raspberries" has helped
my diet slow prostate cancer "progression". I have test results showing that removal of
the raspberries reduced the effectiveness of the diet. This was repeatable three times.
Try searching for "ellagic acid" and prostate cancer. All variations of my diet that have
worked contained raspberries. When I remove the raspberries, the diet stops working.
One cannot conclude that adding raspberries to just any diet will be helpful. You need
a good diet to start with.

These are my words from the first post of this thread.

"My last update had me removing all fruit. The result was outstanding
for the first reading after removal. However, the next three test periods
showed a consistent and continuous decline in performance, down to
14 months PSADT. Added three raspberries back to the oatmeal, and the
PSADT went to 102 months, consistent with numbers I was getting prior to the
zero fruit experiment."

Halbert also says. . . "I'm glad CC is getting what he thinks are positive results
(I note that most of his PSA changes are within the error bars for the test).
However, to claim that he has the magic diet bullet for PC is a stretch, to say
the least."

Yes, I do think I'm getting positive results. I interpret PSA changes that are "within the
error bars for the test" as - - stopping cancer progression. I claim no magic diet bullet
for PC. I do claim that MY diet has stopped MY cancer progression at THIS point in time.
PSA on 8/16/2017 was 0.461. My last three PSA's are 0.427; 0.424; and 0.431 on 8/14/2019.
I do not know how durable the diet will be nor how "transferable" it will be. That would require
large scale testing.

Cashless

yes I find it fascinating and healthy on all levels.

Nice job Wilderness, I guess we can now say it’s an n=2 experiment. Although in your case we don’t know if the PSA would have gone down by itself, as, unless I’m missing anything, you never had treatment for BCR as Cashless did?

One year ago my PSA was 0.525. This week result is 0.363.
This was achieved with diet and moderate exercise. I'm not taking
any meds for PC, and the only supplements I'm taking are B12 and D3.
My gleason score was 4 + 3 biopsy and 3 + 3 pathology. PSADT was
7 months prior to the diet.

Cashless

Great result, Cashless! Do you discuss your diet with your doctor, and if so, what does he or she say about it and your test results?

fiddlecanoe, I don't see cancer-related doctors anymore. My GP
has been indifferent until this year, where the results have been
rather good. Now, he is following what I'm doing closely.

Cashless

Wilderness please report back. Your result will be interesting. I know you followed the diet strictly and it worked for you just as it worked for cashless

Pratoman said...
Quite amazing.
Obviously this is not proof that diet and exercise can keep pc at bay. It’s possible that your PSA would have remained in this range anyway.

But We’ll never know, and I’m betting what you are doing and the discipline with which you approach it has a lot to do with it.

Now if we could only find 20 forum brothers with BCR with the discipline and willingness that you have, to do your diet and exercise program for a year.

You should write a book

cashlessclay said...
Pratoman, my PSA "tracks" my adherence to the diet. PSA goes up when I "stray" from
the diet, and down when I don't. By stray, I don't mean I have lunch at the local fast food
place. But rather, I may have some extra shell fish to try to boost my vitamin B12 levels.
Most test periods have variations to the diet (except when I do a "repeatability" test). The
odds that PSA would consistently go in the right direction, by chance, are something like
1000 to 1.

mattam said...
If what you're doing works, then why not keep on? Continued good luck, Cashless.

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Cashless, your study of one will never be considered up to scientific standards of “proof”. Who cares? You don’t, and neither do I. There is also no scientific proof that I should avoid jumping off a roof. But there is enough common sense evidence - despite the lack of placebo controlled, double blind studies, that I should avoid it. Same for smoking. I don’t know of any good placebo controlled/blinded studies proving it is bad for me, but there is enough that I will continue to avoid it.

If I did X and my PSA went up, and then if I stopped doing X and my PSA went down, and this was repeatable and reproducible, I would not need any scientific studies or doctors permission to stop doing X. Same thing if every time I did Y my PSA went down, and it was repeatable. I could care less who ridicules or points out I have no scientific evidence, I am going to continue doing Y. In both cases, especially if it appears to do no harm and is not terribly expensive, you can count on it I am going to do what appears to be helpful and avoiding what appears to be harmful, no studies (other than my own) required.

Your long running results are quite attention grabbing. I would think that, if all of your results are chance, that by now you would have a PSA go up when you do the things which you are expecting to make it go down. Please keep reporting.

cashlessclay said...
BillyBob,

The diet has also lowered total cholesterol by some 75 points (250 down to 175) and my HDL
(62) is now higher than my triglycerides (52). A1c is now between 4.9 to 5.2. The diet is heart
healthy and helps avoid diabetes, alzheimer's, and apparently "age-related macular degeneration".

https://bjo.bmj.com/content/early/2019/12/06/bjophthalmol-2019-314813

Cashless

Incredible results!

I don't post often, so refreshing:

Following Dec 2014 ORP, my PSA hit .06 a couple of times.

Inspired by cashless and guided by the dietary advice of major cancer centers ( if they advised limiting something, I eliminated it), my diet has been vegan plus wild caught fish with no sugar, no fruit drinks, no processed foods. It is not nearly as tightly controlled as cashless. I eat blueberries every day, turmeric, black pepper, flax meal, cooked tomatoes, spinach, a variety of vegetables and fruits & I supplement vitamins D & K.

My PSA went undetectable. I do not know if the diet was related, but I didn't plan to test the possibility that it was.

Through the fall & winter, I'm on a project in a West African village where I have restricted food options - so no blueberries, no raspberries, no spinach or other greens, etc. I remain predominantly vegan, but I get some sugar.

I post to report the PSA result I received this morning continues < .014. Perhaps diet is irrelevant to the remission of PCa for me. I know some here started SRT at .06. To date, it's worked out well that I did not.

Best to everyone -
Wilderness

I'm having a New York Strip, baked potato, and a salad tonight - washing it down with water.

NotBubba says: I have questions . . .

Did you have a similar type reduction in LDL?
** Yes! LDL = 90 to 100, VLDL = 10-12 now; and LDL = 160 to 170, VLDL = 34-76 pre-diet.
Is there a strong (more than veggies) fiber source in your diet besides oatmeal?
** Some additional fiber from hummus and Mary's crackers.
You take a few supplements, any that are targeted for cholesterol?
** No! I take vitamin B12 (methyl) and vitamin d3 only.
The cholesterol was just an unexpected bonus on your plan?
** The magnitude of the drop was very much a surprise as was the rise in HDL.

Cashless