Lose the weight after ADT

It goes without saying that thinner is healthier, for anyone. Particularly, do everything possible to lose weight gain after ADT

Not a perfect study, but...
https://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/jco.19.02185

“ CONCLUSION
Results suggest that among survivors of nonmetastatic prostate cancer with largely localized disease, postdiagnosis obesity is associated with higher CVDM and all-cause mortality, and possibly higher PCSM, and that postdiagnosis weight gain may be associated with a higher mortality as a result of all causes and prostate cancer”

Thanks for the interesting link. I have been rather careless about this during the last year or so, and seem to have stabilized about 10 lbs higher than the 25 lbs or so than I had taken off a couple of years ago. And I have worried that it might have an influence on my PC's course or other health issues. I don't think I have fasted hardly at all since this quarantine thing started, which is ridiculous. And I notice I have been giving in to the worst foods relative to my gut size: carbs in general, and sweets specifically. I have got to get control of all of that right now.

I notice that the HR for all the different causes of mortality, including all cause, were roughly the same, at about 1.25. ( 1.28 for PC, 1.23 for all-cause mortality). None of it huge, but consistent. This actually fits in with all my previous rants about diabetes, pre-diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and the bottom line with all of those: high blood insulin. One thing you can count on pretty consistently: an increase in weight, gut size, BMI, etc = an increase in blood insulin. So anything we can do to reduce, or at least to avoid high blood insulin, is good for us and our over all health, including the battle against PC. Therefore intermittent fasting, lowering net carbs, exercise, a bit of all 3, a lot of all 3, are most likely things that will prove helpful.

Now, since I already gave in when my wife asked "do you want some breakfast, I'm making me some" and had eggs and grits(could have been a lot worse, believe me, and might still be as the morning and day are young and I hear he making something else right now), I think I will put the computer down and go for a brisk 2 mile walk. Right now!

Have been on continuous ADT for almost 7 years, since my diagnosis in 2013.

I usually walk each evening, after work.

Now, with flexible "work from home" hours due to the pandemic, I start my day with an early morning walk --- and then a couple more throughout the day.

Instead of putting some cookies or candy in my grocery cart lately, I have focused on more fruits and vegetables. I'm focusing on cold tea and water for hydration --- no calories there.

At my monthly check up, my care nurse said I had already lost 10 pounds this past month, with my new increased walking regimen!

I've always enjoyed an evening walk after work - but now with spring weather, it's been easy to INCREASE my walking regimen. I walk on weekends, too.

On weekends, I have explored some new trails in this area and some great trails at some area lakes.

For any comrades on ADT, exercise boosts energy levels, too!

Keep looking forward, keep moving,
CYCLONE - Iowa State University

I'd been successful at losing my ADT weight gain by going low carb. But although I've been on that diet for ~5 years or so (with breaks during the holidays and one month in the summer), I've stopped for now with the stay-at-home order. Groceries and meals are difficult enough to plan for without working around dietary restrictions--and at least I'm having some fun eating during this period. I have yet to weight myself!

I lost weight once.
But it's okay - I found it all.

Prato,

I know what you you are getting at with this study on being thinner after ADT but really what we want to do is lose fat which is less than 1/2 the weight/volume as muscle. A lot of models try to be ultra thin so they can model cloths better and make the big bucks but many do this by drugs and extreme dieting which makes them lose fat and muscle without exercise which is pretty unheathy.

When on ADT for 6 months, gained about 7 pounds but in the end before my "T" came back to normal, I had lost a fair bit of muscle but gained a bunch of fat. Now 1 year after ADT and body weight back to my normal of 175 lbs, my body has gone from pudgy to fairly lean by exchanging fat for muscle even though weight has not changed that much.

Of course, exercise is the key even if your body has some extra fat, especially if you spend even short periods of time every day on rigorous activity as long as is OK'd by your doctor.

My wife and I have not missed a day even during this social distancing phase getting out skiing, hiking, road riding,(too wet/snowy for MTB) for at least 2 hours /day and the fairly sedentary winter of 18/19 during ADT are now a distant memory.

Dave

Yup Slapshot, while the number might be important, whats more important to lose fat, not muscle. And even increase muscle weight.
I had gained about 15 pounds all around the middle, on ADT and it has been a ***** tryin to get rid of it. Finally, with my T getting close to the low end of normal, watching diet AND exercising, is working. With this lockdown and not much else to do, i walk about 3.7-3 mile every day, and work out every other day with light weights (all i have at home here) and high reps.
I'm about 13 pounds lighter now than i was at the end of November. Still need to drop another 5, or i should say, 5 pounds or so of fat around the middle. But the spare tire is greatly reduced. This article i posted was a good reminder to stay on it.

Today marks 3 weeks of isolation without sugar. Walking 3 miles a day, no meat, dairy or flour. The change has been fantastic! I feel great! Zero alcohol! A healthy vegan diet, gluten free, caffeine free, sugar free and a 2 hour home workout each day! Lost 20 lbs of fat and gained muscle mass.

I have no idea whose status this is, but I am really proud of them so I decided to copy-paste it.

mmmmmmm, those sound like some pretty serious side effects of 30lb decrease; No Caffeine, No Meat, No Gluten, No Dairy, No Flour, No Sweets. Pretty sure I'll Pass on that medicine, ADT was bad enough! 😜😜😜

Saipan Paradise said...

Gary, the Facebook page I found that status on said "Lost 30 lbs of fat..." I guess 10 lbs got lost in translation.

No Richard, the 10 lbs got removed due to integrity. ;-)