dear courtney
very well said in your previous post! that is the reason i started this thread (i.e., to express my concern that these tests are often not given and alert PC patients that they should be aware of these tests and insist on getting them if they want them). while we all want to place trust in our doctors, we have to be educated, take charge of our medical treatments in life and very often challenge our doctors and their decisions. because these two tests are not reliable, many doctors will not have their patients take them. i don't agree with this at all. in many cases the tests will reveal important diagnostic information which may be very helpful in treating prostate cancer. the fact that many top doctors and medical centers use these tests to supplement the biopsy, lends support to their creditability. let's face it, even the biopsy isn't a perfect test. all the best to you and kurt.
dave