Using Trimix

Thx I'll give it a shot...sorry about the pun.

Hey Joe,

I started at 0.10 mL of Trimix on my first injection and went all the way down to .025 or less mL on the last ones. I stopped because of the Alprostadil pain and the fact I was having 3+ hours erections...even at the lowest dose I could measure.

Some have suggested Bimix or one of the 2 Bimix ingredients separately. I don't see my ED doc for a few more weeks and will let you know what he thinks. Levitra is starting to work good for me in low doses. It didn't do anything for the first several months after surgery.

Hope this helps.

Mike

Joe,

I'm at 0.02 ml Trimix@ 3 hours and looking at dropping to 0.015 ... its getting hard to read the marks on the syringe! ... I swear if Johnson just sniffs the Trimix bottle he reacts.

And if it doesn't hurt (i.e. turns cold, blue and hurts) the problem with a five hour hardon is .....? Maybe it's good penile rehab?

Oh well, Mikes right, time to look at Bimix.

Good luck!

Mr Gimpy,

You are correct. A five hour "erection" should be taken seriously.

I continue to experience 2 hour "erections" after the use of Trimix .... and stay puffy for at least three hours. Seems the longer I am on Trimix, the lower the dose gets and the longer the effect lasts. Currently using 8 month old Trimix .... not sure what will happen when I go to a new vile.

Like I said, Mike's right, time to look at Bimix.

joe, I wouldn't recommend using a pump on an already overdue to fall erection. There's a real possibility you could do some serious damage to chemically enlarged tissues and cavities. Just not a good idea, in my opinion. Could you explain a litle more what you mean by Trimix at a ratio of 30/4/40? Do you have any details what each of those are? We usually get standard doses here of 30mg papaverine/1mg phentolamine/and either 10 or 20mcg of alprostadil. If your ratio is like ours then you have a very strong version of it, ie: your 30/4/40 would be at least 4 times stronger in the second set, and either twice or 3 times as strong in the third. That third one- the alprostadil- is the one that gives it the kick of added erection reaction, also the one that produces the aching and pain complaints some have with Trimix. I'd really like to know what your prescription is. This may be why you are having the 5 hour erections. Get back to us,ok?

Mine is 30 pap/1phen/10alp, that is to say---30mg per 1 ml volume of papaverine, 1mg per 1 ml volume papaverine and 10mcg (note the change from mg to mcg, much smaller amount) alprostadil. As I said, most guys use the standard of 30/1, with some variance in the last of either 10mcg or 20mcg. By the way, in case you don't know, Bimix is the same ratio of just the first 2 chemicals, less the alprostadil. there's also a Quadmix or 4 drug mix, but it's fairly uncommon here on the forum. Maybe one or two guys over my 3 years here have used it.

So, if your formula is 30pap/4phen/40alp, then yours is stronger than mine, mine being 30/1/10 versus your 30/4/40. That could go a long way to explain your problems with 5 hour erections. Have you ever tried the bimix? That's another possibility, if you and your doc is willing to experiment a little. I would suggest you ask your doc why your drug ratio is so much stronger than our 'normal' standard amongst us Prostate Cancer surgery users. After re-reading your first post, I think the problem is the combo of the phen being so strong and the double strength of the alprostadil. Since he is still giving you 'samples' I'd ask him about trying something with less alprostadil in it. Maybe even try the standard 30/1/20 mix, and see, if he is still trying different things. Also, are you using an insulin syringe to inject? If so, are you reading your .1 and .05 as cc's, if so does the units mark equal 10 units for the .1 and 5 units for the .05 measure your are stating? If so, most guys here, as a general rule, require less than 10 units and more so less than 5 units of much less strong formula than what you are using. Does this make sense or am I jabbering?

James C is right to consider your prescription strength.

I haven't thrown mine out yet and just got it out of the fridge (only to look at it and read the label).

Best I can make out it is 20/1/25...the last being the alprostadil in micrograms. The chemical names here are different, but I think the overall solution is fairly standard. Keep in mind my ED Uro diluted this to 50% by volume by adding sterile saline solution.

The content of the most active ingredient, alprostadil, is the 25 micrograms. I may be able to use the bimix (no alprostadil) and do fine. I'll let you know after my next doc visit.

One thing my ED Uro has been telling me all along is that it's a good sign that my sensitivity (to injections) is increasing even though dose is decreasing. He has many patients my age where the trimix has kick-started recovery after RRP. I hope I'm one. Levitra did nothing for me a year ago except give me a headache and a stuffy nose. I'm often now getting good response to levitra. I'm still getting what I think is veinous leakage (erection goes down some when I change position...as in go to missionary).  To me, that's good progress as my GP told me I probably would never have any response without injections.

There is hope.

Mike

James...I was editing my last post here...was that question for me? Mike

You can get the sterile solution at the pharmacy, it is a common solution, It was issued with each vial of Caverject powder with each of my prescriptions. If you do go this route, please make sure you explain to the pharmacist what your reasoning is and ask him for input. Maintain sterile conditions, of course, alcohol swabs on both vial tops and the transferring syringe. But, please speak to the pharmacist first, ok? And if it doesn't come from the pharmacy, don't risk it, use nothing but what they use to dilute meds.

Finally tryed 0.02 and lasted 3.5 hours . man this stuff would raise a dead horse . Anyone see a problem with an erection 3.5-4 hours with no pain or cold penis, bruised .

I'm having some trouble using Trimix. Ive been using it now for 7 weeks. I have found that a dosage as little as 0.075 ml works great for me; but only sometimes. Sometimes it produces an erection like steel for 2 or 3 hours. But other times it produces nothing, natta, zilch, zip, zero. I did 0.09 ml once with no results. Another time 0.06 gave me an erection that lasted 4.5 hours even with Sudafed and ice - scary.

Does this happen to anyone else? Does anyone know why this is happening, and how to get results more consistent? As far as I can tell, there is no significant difference in eating or drinking patterns. I try to vary the injection location slightly each time to reduce risk of fibrosis, but always in the same general area; near the base and at 3:00 and 9:00 positions. Im using a 1/2 inch, 30 gauge needle, but I go in only about 5/16".

Ive read this entire string, as well as the web site providing detailed instructions.

Question 1: Has anyone had similar problems and have found a solution to get more consistent results?

Question 2: Has anyone ever tried a second injection after the first one failed?

I would sure be grateful to hear your advice.

Thank you

OMG Jim; you are a lifersaver dude! Thank you so much!! This is more significant info then I've ever gotten from any blog site, really. I have an incredibly important event planned for tonight that is going to need Johnson standing at full attention. I assumed my problem had to be related to where I was sticking, or how deep. And when it didn't work I was afraid to make a second attempt, since my Uro said I had to wait 24 hrs. Thanks so very much.

Also like an idiot I threw my first bottle of Trimix away after 30 days like pharmacist said to. $130 dollars! It was nearly full!

I'm indebted to you buddy.

I found a few rubber bands wrapped around the base of the penis at injection time and for three minutes afterwards led to very consistent results with bimix. And of course massage after the injection helps too.

I found the plumping technique did nothing for me -- just goes to show we are all different. Don't be afraid to experiment with the suggestions we make here -- you should find something that works for you.