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Posted 8/1/2013 6:38 PM (GMT -5)
160,000 lung cancer deaths per year and 30,000 PCa deaths per year.

We know that since screening a combination of factors, including screening itself, have greatly reduced PCA related deaths. Yet we've been given the recent controversial PCa screening guidelines.

www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/30/obamacare-panel-approves-free-cancer-screenings-for-heavy-smokers/

This story points out how lung cancer screening is approved (grade B) for smokers, including past smokers who quit up to 15 years ago. This is great news. Of course there is also a crowd, as mentioned in link, that says this will result in ODOT (in other words, cost money).

"Dr. Michael LeFevre of the University of Missouri in Columbia, who served on the task force, said “getting screened for lung cancer is not an alternative to quitting smoking,” but he said screening high-risk smokers can prevent as many as 20,000 deaths a year."

If it's about saving lives, why the different treatment for lung cancer vis-a-vis PCa?
Posted 8/1/2013 7:07 PM (GMT -5)
Perhaps it's a conspiracy against men. Lung cancer includes women, prostate cancer doesn't. The task force is ok with screening for breast cancer.

Did you notice that even with lung cancer that they don't give a crap about those in their 40s?
Posted 8/1/2013 10:05 PM (GMT -5)
Sometime google odds of getting lung cancer if you are a smoker. Add calculator to it. use the calculator. Unless I got a very strange site and calculator,about two years ago, you will be amazed at the results. I was , Im tempted to check again, but for some reason, I won't. Ok they were amazingly low and you could add as many packs a day smoked and the results just inched up slightly. the trick might have been, the whole population is included in the data base, not just smokers, I believe. It was something like a 4% chance even if smoking 3-4 packs a day for 30 -40 years. Amazing what can be done with statistics.
Posted 8/1/2013 10:19 PM (GMT -5)
I would guess it is be cause more people die per year of lung cancer than pca, more deadly and more understood. If they see a cluster of lung cancer cells, they know across the spectrum of cells,statistically it is a much more aggressive disease than pca. Understood in the since, more predictable. i doubt there is little AS or debate about levels of differentiation, with lung cancer as well as pancreatic, ovarian and such. Lets face it Pca is nasty, if it gets nasty, as is skin cancer and testicular. but they are in a different ball park than Pca as a whole. the true comparison is breast vs Pca, whose mortality statistics are pretty much the same. More money and attention goes to breast cancer than Pca. Which actually is fine with me, as I still open doors for women, even when/ if they sneer at me for doing it. I actually like and take rejection very well……… " It smells like Victory"
Posted 8/1/2013 10:28 PM (GMT -5)
Logo,

The day you don't open a door for a lady is the day you are truly no longer a man, regardless of ED, HT, or ... whatever ...

A gentleman takes the complaints of the "liberated" female in stride.

Yes, in this also I am a dinosaur.

Posted 8/1/2013 11:55 PM (GMT -5)
Me, too, 142, that's how I feel and operate. But I also hold the door or elevator open for anyone coming from behind me, male or female.

However, I am amazed when a few women over the years, have barked at me, "I didn't ask you to do that", or "I don't need you to do that".  A simply "thank you" would suffice.  I was raised to be polite, just comes nature after 61 years on this planet.

David

Post Edited (Purgatory) : 8/1/2013 11:01:25 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/1/2013 11:58 PM (GMT -5)
Logo,

It would never make sense to convince people that smoking is good for them, but it amazes me how lung cancer passes by some of the heaviest smokers.

My mother has been smoking heavy since 1943, and still smokes 1 to 1 1/2 packs of 120 length smokes a day, and has no real breathing issues. That means she has been smoking for 70 years. My father, however, died of a smoking related blood cancer 20 years ago at age 65. And in high school, a friend of mine father died at age 43 from lung cancer and had never smoked in his life. So random.

David
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