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woodyvt
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Joined : Feb 2014
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Posted 2/28/2014 8:49 AM (GMT -5)
I had posted here a while ago in post op PSA.
Part of my treatment 2 years ago left an unanswered question.
I had one hit on prostate during biopsy, during my DeVinci robotic op they found under highly magnification
one lymp node outside prostate had a hit, so they removed also.
Have a VA claim because i went through several Atomic test in 1962, now VA says cancer went from prostate to lymp, now because the VA won't allow prostate cancer in claims, now i say why couldn't the cancer have gone from Lymp to prostate instead, any thoughts???
Purgatory
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Posted 2/28/2014 10:30 AM (GMT -5)
It's not likely that the cancer started from the lymph to the prostate, because if your prostate has prostate cancer, it can and often does spread to the lymph nodes, not the other way around.
This shouldn't prevent the VA from approving a prostate cancer claim, whether it involves lymph nodes or not. Have you talked to your county VA reps about
this? Something doesn't sound right.
David
az4peaks
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Posted 2/28/2014 12:56 PM (GMT -5)
Hi woodyvt, - You ask: "now i say why couldn't the cancer have gone from Lymp to prostate instead, any thoughts???
My response: Because Prostate Cancer (PCa) ORIGINATES in the Prostate. If malignancy in the lymph node was identified as metastatic PCa, as you indicate, then it maintains the identifying molecular make-up of PCa.
Cancer originating in the Lymph nodes would be Lymphoma and is distinguishable from PCa when examined under the microscope, by the Pathologist.
Lets be realistic here, it is not realistic to expect to be able to blame an unidentified exposure to 1962 "testing" for being directly responsible for your being diagnosed, over 50 years later, with the most common solid tumor Cancers found in American men. Particularly, one that substantially increases in diagnostic numbers as men age.
The automatic VA approval of Prostate Cancer (PCa) disability claims was an arbitrary decision by the Federal Government based upon sometimes conflicting research data but which was within their administrative power to enact. It is relevant, however, only to men in the armed forces that
served in designated "combat zones" where Agent Orange (AO) was employed. This is roughly from the Korean conflict to date. They need not prove personal exposure to AO, but only their presence in the designated zones during the chronological time periods previously approved.
Hope this helps your understanding of the situation. - John@newPCa.org (aka) az4peaks
logoslidat
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Posted 2/28/2014 7:02 PM (GMT -5)
the fact that different cancers can be identified by pathologists and when they spread to the liver, for example, they are still the same cancer as the the one they originated in. woodyvt, you are not alone in not knowing this about
cancer. Az4peaks do you have knowledge you could share with Mrs worrywart on her post about
small cell pca. I shy to volunteer you, but she is pretty special lady herself. Im bumping her up and understand you may not be able to help her.
MsWorryWart
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Posted 2/28/2014 8:06 PM (GMT -5)
Mahalo nui loa, Logo!
Such a thoughtful thing to do! :)
woodyvt
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Posted 3/1/2014 12:22 AM (GMT -5)
In reviewing pathology report, i found that my numbers are as follows.
T2C.. both sides of prostate
N1... in lymph node
MO... Not beyond lymph node
Pelvic lymph node dissection
4 + 3 =7
Post Edited (woodyvt) : 3/1/2014 1:04:11 PM (GMT-7)
woodyvt
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Posted 3/5/2014 12:47 AM (GMT -5)
az4peaks....One correction in your reply to me, cancer from being involved in Nuclear testing can show up decades later, its not something that will show up in a couple years, claims have to be filed within 50 yrs of exposure.....thanks for your reply
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