BRD said...
I have seen several people post numbers but I am not sure what all is important to know so I'll post some of what I have from the pathology report.
Hi, BRD. I can help you answer this question; actually, you mostly have answered it yourself at this point.
The only reason for all the numbers is to understand clearly what your RISK CATEGORY is. Please do read the "sticky" thread at the top of the page titled, "Newly diagnosed with PC - read this thread first," where the very first posting there is about
RISK CATEGORY.
Understanding your RISK CATEGORY is the essential predecessor to any conversation about treatment.
I'll copy & paste one section from the first posting in the sticky thread here for everyone's convenience (the formatting comes out a little different):
VERY LOW RECURRENCE RISK
o PSA < 10 ng/mL
o and Gleason < 7
o and cT1c tumor
o and PSA density <0.15
o and <3 biopsy cores positive, <=50% cancer in any core
So now let's go down the list with
your info:
BRD said...
PSA two years ago was 1.5, last year 2.8 and 5 weeks ago 4.5
Less than 10 ng/mL...
CHECKBRD said...
Gleason score 3+3=6
Gleason less than 7...
CHECKBRD said...
I have had DRE ... tests since 40 years old with no concerns from my doctors.
No DRE concerns, so cT1c...
CHECKPSA density is next. Here's the one thing you didn't mention: from your biopsy, your doctor would have done an estimation of your prostate size in cc's or ml's (the volume numbers would be the same; ie., a 40cc prostate is also 40mls). If you have a printout of the report, it's probably on there somewhere. PSA density is your PSA divided by the volume. Typical normal prostate size is 30-ish for someone your age without BPH, which would yield 0.15 density. You are probably good here...
CHECKBRD said...
12 cores biopsied...1 showed cancer...two foci measuring less than 1 mm each
Only one core (it doesn't get any lower than this, and at 1mm (size of #2 pencil lead), you no doubt have less than 50% in that one core (the report may also give this number)...
CHECKSo there you go...you've pretty much got all the key numbers. I do always think that a second opinion reading of one's biopsy slides by a pathologist who specializes in prostate cancer is always a good idea (unless of course the initial reading was already done by one of those experts...some doctors just send the biopsy samples directly to one of the experts). But, 2nd opinion nonwithstanding, you should now begin every conversation here or with any medical professional you consult with this summary statement:
"I have been diagnosed with VERY LOW RISK prostate cancer."One other helpful clarification...maybe you already know this, or maybe not; it wasn't clear to me that you understood what he meant when he said this:
BRD said...
I do know that he said this is one that can go either way with treatment...
Just to be clear, what I'm certain he meant by "either way" was that you really don't even need to treat this at all. The tiny bit of PC that has been found in you is generally considered a natural part of aging, and is not considered any sort of a threat to your health or well-being. In fact, many doctors are arguing that this really should not be called "cancer" at all! Their reasoning for this is that way too many men encounter an "overwhelming" fear of the word "cancer" and over-react by demanding immediate treatment...and often is such cases the treatment is much worse than the disease.
best wishes...!