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Posted 1/30/2014 5:05 PM (GMT -5)
Link to article

The Study

Might hold some promise for us UC folks as well. Can't wait to see how this develops.
Posted 1/30/2014 6:00 PM (GMT -5)
Hmmm...I wonder in what percent remission was achieved even though it was not statistically significant. It's disappointing this doesn't seem nearly as successful as earlier studies on marijuana for CD.

Hopefully the current fervor won't die down and it will be legalized in more states.
Posted 1/30/2014 6:14 PM (GMT -5)
You betcha!!!! I know I'm in rough shape right now with all my disease activity going on but I have to say the mj sure makes my body feel better when I'm stoned.
Posted 1/30/2014 6:26 PM (GMT -5)
Levi, I agree - I think more data is needed. Here is the crohn's forum link with info on the clinical trials.

When do we start reprimanding the Government and Pharmaceutical industry for colluding together to take this beneficial agent off the market solely because it is cheap, unpatentable, and effective against so many illnesses? Think of the thousands of lives that could have been saved or made more bearable. Just ashamed to be an American at the moment because the benefits have been known for quite some time.

Israel is doing it correctly, and with the proper checks and balances system in place.
Posted 1/30/2014 6:27 PM (GMT -5)
I'm not a fan of statistics. Most people don't know how to use them, including the people publishing the studies. I also have doubts we're all going to start getting prescriptions any time soon.
Posted 1/30/2014 6:31 PM (GMT -5)

Madcat25 said...
I'm not a fan of statistics. Most people don't know how to use them, including the people publishing the studies. I also have doubts we're all going to start getting prescriptions any time soon.

Actually, most people don't have the slightest clue on how to interpret them (doctors included). That's where the problem lies and it's the sole reason why drugs are so profitable. By law, studies cannot be altered but pharmaceutical companies can circumvent this by 1) weeding out those with adverse reactions in the early arms 2) writing out any adverse effects. Both practices are fairly common and the reason why drugs get recalled.

Relative risk reductions are the reason why 75% or more of Americans are on statins and other drugs when they don't need to be. This presents an ethical and moral dilemma that needs to be taken head on.

Post Edited (StealthGuardian) : 1/30/2014 4:34:58 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/30/2014 6:44 PM (GMT -5)
www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science.html

Here's and interesting Ted Talk that goes over some of the things you mentioned about medical studies and the interpretation of them if anyone is so inclined
Posted 1/30/2014 7:03 PM (GMT -5)
THC cannabis has been making a lot of news lately. I think more should be studied. But it's a good read.
Posted 1/30/2014 7:11 PM (GMT -5)

Levi said...
www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science.html

Here's and interesting Ted Talk that goes over some of the things you mentioned about medical studies and the interpretation of them if anyone is so inclined

Saw it a while back and it changed me. There needs to be a platform where all studies, both negative and neutral, are published. I long to see the day where people sign informed consent forms with all the trial info (negative and positive) made visible before subjecting themselves to any treatments. People genuinely have a right to know if they are going to rupture any body parts.

Here are the email correspondences between roche corp and scientists who wanted the trial data. They refused to hand out the unpublished data on tamiflu. Only recently did they release it and that's when we found it that it never did anything. A little late for those that already took it.

Post Edited (StealthGuardian) : 1/30/2014 5:20:22 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/30/2014 7:29 PM (GMT -5)
Well 6 out of 11 CDers going in to a full remission using 2 mj joints a day is remarkable especially since the remaining 5 all noted improvements with their disease symptoms even though they didn't get in to full remission everyone in that trial had improvements with the majority finding full remission...that speaks volumes, are there other meds that have been trialed with results as good as that?
Posted 1/30/2014 7:47 PM (GMT -5)

pb4 said...
Well 6 out of 11 CDers going in to a full remission using 2 mj joints a day is remarkable especially since the remaining 5 all noted improvements with their disease symptoms even though they didn't get in to full remission everyone in that trial had improvements with the majority finding full remission...that speaks volumes, are there other meds that have been trialed with results as good as that?

Discounting lifestyle interventions, nothing else even comes close. Cannabis is a natural herb that has been used for thousands of years, so it's effects are pretty well documented in both medical and historical literature.
Posted 1/30/2014 8:35 PM (GMT -5)
I wonder if the mj was smoked or if not, how was it taken? I have been interested in either the oil or baking it since I don't like the stoned feeling bc it affects my heart. I am in a state that can't get medical mj anyway but hopefully one day I will.
Posted 1/30/2014 9:24 PM (GMT -5)
pmedic, in the study I was referring to it was smoked.
Posted 1/30/2014 9:27 PM (GMT -5)
Stealth, other than the being stoned in the head part which I don't like, I can't even find words to describe how good my body (CD wise) feels when I'm stoned, it feels like it did before I ever got sick, when I'm not stoned, it's generally always feeling uncomfortable to down right painful (well the pain has subsided since I started smoking mj) I wish they would make it easier to get the oil that has no THC to make your head feel stoned, but still aids with people's health issues.
Posted 1/30/2014 11:01 PM (GMT -5)
pb4 - That's very reassuring to hear (and the studies would back you up on it). I'm so happy it helps you.

I know many people in pain right now that could use it, but don't have access to it. So sad. They have to take morphine instead, which is a hundred times worse.

Do you get it from a medicinal vendor?
Posted 1/30/2014 11:09 PM (GMT -5)
I don't like pain meds because I don't like being high. I need a delivery mechanism that avoids that side effect. I also work in a highly regulated industry, so a lot more laws need to change on a Federal level for this to be a viable option for me.
Posted 1/30/2014 11:46 PM (GMT -5)
I'm in WA state where we have a multitude of dispensaries. Several friends, coworkers and family members have their medical MJ cards. It has been so beneficial to my sister who no longer requires the strongest narcotics and a godsend to my brother for his chemo for colon cancer.

I haven't used it enough to know if it helps my UC because I'm not comfortable being high in public but if my flare worsens I will try to use it more often. I've been told the sativa oil would be especially beneficial for UCers and I'm sure I could get a card with this disease, heck I could easily get one for migraines, depression, anxiety or whatever else ails me:)
Posted 1/31/2014 1:54 AM (GMT -5)
Not to mention, many pain meds are constipating...mj isn't, I say that the oil minus the THC has to be the way to go, you get the benefit of feeling better but no "head" high so you can still function like a normal person...oh how I miss my normal days, maybe one day I'll have them again.
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