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Posted 6/18/2014 10:05 AM (GMT -5)
well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/18/exercise-and-the-good-bugs-in-our-gut/?_php=true&_type=blogs&hpw&rref=health&_r=0

Maybe logging off and jogging is a good idea? That Rugby players have lower inflammation markers than not just sedentary overweight people but average healthy people is amazing and that somebody that physically stressed has a healthier gut is amazing too.

Could this explain the rise in IBD is countries filled with couch potatoes?
Posted 6/18/2014 10:19 AM (GMT -5)
I do cardio every day :( not as much as a rugby player but probably more than a lot of "healthy" people.
Posted 6/18/2014 10:20 AM (GMT -5)
Yoga also works the vagus nerve, which is turning out to be key in treating many disorders (epilepsy, autism, etc).
Posted 6/18/2014 12:44 PM (GMT -5)
I actually agree that yoga has a better chance of helping you than grape seed extract does. Glad the GSE works for me though. I'm getting old and I can't get my body to do shape shifting anymore, unless you call what Homer Simpson does shape shifting. LOL.
Posted 6/18/2014 10:35 PM (GMT -5)
gar, I highly suspect shifting your body was never a pursuit you were involved with much - unless you're talking about shifting your fork from your tired right hand to your left ;-)
Posted 6/18/2014 10:45 PM (GMT -5)
This study brings up an issue recently written about in a big publication (can't remember the name right now) that a majority of medical studies are done solely on men, no women included, and the results do not necessarily translate as accurate for women. I'm getting tired of women being shortchanged medically.

Secondly, I was an athlete, vegetarian, played tennis 4-5 times a week, gym 3 times a week and yet I got UC. Lots of healthy active people here have gotten UC, not couch potatoes.

Yes I believe gut bacteria plays a big role in UC. Let's turn the focus on what's killing our good bacteria and it ain't the couch.
Posted 6/18/2014 10:54 PM (GMT -5)
Well dang. I guess running cross country, cycling, dance, gymnastics, yoga, powerlifting, swimming and teaching fitness classes wasnt enough for me.

I probably shouldve added in competitive figure skating or surfing for that extra powerful UC fighting bacteria!
Posted 6/18/2014 11:23 PM (GMT -5)
Well my grandma never went to the doctor,ate meat and potatoes, never exercised, smoked and drank scotch daily. Lived to 94 and had zero health problems. Doesn't mean you should start smoking and spending more time on the couch. Doesn't mean you can't get lung cancer or heart disease if do everything right.

This study basically proves that the couch negatively effects gut bacteria. I bet there are a few rugby players with IBD anyway.

Could be that inflammation, which is much more common in unfit and/or overweight people, is the cause of messed up gut bacteria and this sometimes this causes IBD. Just like it causes diabetes and heart disease. Maybe it flips a switch and your immune system goes nuts. It could account for that huge increase in IBD in western countries in the last 30 years. You may not be able to fix it but you might be able to stop many people from doing it to themselves.
Posted 6/19/2014 2:52 AM (GMT -5)
I wish they would do studies to find out for once and for all which came first: the inflammation or the dysbiosis??!!!
Posted 6/19/2014 8:08 AM (GMT -5)
I agree with imagardener2 that women are often shortchanged in medical studies.

Part of me laughs every time I hear "IBD is caused by stress" or "IBD is caused by diet." Not because either of those theories is farfetched, but because the person espousing them often sounds so confident that whatever they're saying applies to everyone when that will never be true. Our guts are all unique.

I was diagnosed with UC shortly after turning three. My life was free of stress. My diet was healthy. I had a happy, active lifestyle and was not a couch potato.

Genetic predisposition to autoimmune illnesses in general and UC in particular, and the bum gut that's mysteriously linked to many of them, that's what I think caused mine. It might be significant that months before I got sick, I'd been treated in-hospital with antibiotics to clear up an infection. I have a relative with UC who was diagnosed as an adult after a lifetime of unhealthy eating, sedentary behavior and stress. We're the same but different.
Posted 6/19/2014 8:46 AM (GMT -5)

Conquer UC said...
I wish they would do studies to find out for once and for all which came first: the inflammation or the dysbiosis??!!!


I think a really interesting study would be on long time married couples. One group where one had UC and one where they were both healthy. I bet the healthy couples would have a very similar gut make up. Really interesting to see if the UC couple did. Parents and children that hadn't left home would be interesting too.

I am starting to really think the odds are that UC is causing the dysbiosis but who knows. It could be that both inflammation and dysbiosis are caused by your haywire immune system. They have to map the gut as to species not just phylum, figure out the species that are important and necessary, decide on healthy population ranges,,,,,. I was really interested in these gut tests offered but starting to think the results aren't useful information. The connection between stress(and other mental issues) and autoimmune disease may not be causation but that the mental problems are an autoimmune disease

My new unscientific theory is fermented foods and probiotics are simply giving your nutso immune system cannon fodder.
Posted 6/19/2014 10:46 AM (GMT -5)
Not sure where you get the idea that Grape Seeds are a Gimmick...

GSE seems to be about the farthest thing from so.


Also I posted on this very study a few weeks ago. The one mistake the article writer(s) make is they attribute the bacterial differences purely to exercise, and although the full on study accounts for the positive change due to increased protein intake, and whey protein added to diet of the rugby players versus the controls it fails to account for the presence of certain soil bacteria etc.... Rugy players get quite dirty.

Anyway - a little bit of exercise and rolling around in the dirt is probably a very good thing... kids are quite good at this. Adults, not so much.
Posted 6/19/2014 2:11 PM (GMT -5)
I think: mystery item #1 (a messed up immune system) causes #2, the dysbiosis, which causes #3, the inflammation. The true path to the cure is figuring out item #1.
Posted 6/19/2014 5:08 PM (GMT -5)
So, doing yoga, in the dirt, while eating grapeseeds?

Is this FDA approved?
Posted 6/19/2014 8:11 PM (GMT -5)
Hahahha - @coffeman This actually sounds like a good idea! When I go rowing in the mornings there's always a few people doing yoga on the grass/dirt without mats. Maybe I'll ask to join in.

Out of all the stuff I have ever tried (natural and meds); yoga, osteopathy and acupuncture made me feel awesome. I keep saying if I ever win the lottery I'd do all three daily. They never made much of a difference with the IBD aspect and mucus etc, but I felt so relaxed it was crazy after, sometimes for many hours or even most of the day and this made things tolerable - but only if I did them 3 times per week. It became expensive fast so I scrapped it, but gave it 3 weeks as a trial.
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