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ElpisUnbreakable
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Posted 11/25/2015 9:35 AM (GMT -5)
I might just need to vent before the holidays but every year it is the same thing from my family..... "at least it is not cancer."
Does anyone else ever get the "at least it is not cancer" lecture? I just don't think it is helpful to compare one disease to another. It feels diminishing. I would never tell an amputee that at least they have another leg. Was just wondering if anyone else has a more positive way of dealing with the "it's not cancer" speech? Because I try to explain UC to my family and how life changing it can be and they just lecture that cancer kills people and it could be much worse. This just ends up making me angrier and I need a more positive way to deal with them. Both my parents are cancer survivors so I have to tread very carefully here.
sherbear46
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Posted 11/25/2015 10:38 AM (GMT -5)
Sorry you have to deal with the insensitivity. I have no good reply back because after a certain amount of time dealing with that I would just go off.
CCinPA
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Posted 11/25/2015 10:44 AM (GMT -5)
UC killed people before the advent of modern medicine too. I don't know what I would do if my family said that to me. Most likely I would either avoid any health related conversation at all or would avoid the family gatherings completely because it makes me angry they they do this to you! Maybe you could say to them what you said here -- would they tell an amputee that at least they still had the other leg?
imagardener2
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Posted 11/25/2015 11:01 AM (GMT -5)
They must be the kind of people who comfort a parent whose child died by saying "At least you have another one." Some people are just clueless. I never like to descend to a nasty level but you could say "No it's not cancer, just a incurable disease that lasts a lifetime." Look them in the eyes unblinking until they turn away.
No one in my family has ever said anything to me but I am not the kind of person you say stupid things to (not saying you are) but for some reason they just don't. It sounds like your parents are self-involved and talking about
their cancer experience with not much empathy for your daily life.
ki-wi
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Posted 11/25/2015 12:16 PM (GMT -5)
You have to be really blunt with them. Tell them you often wish it was cancer, because then maybe they'd be more understanding. Ask them if they even know the name of the disease you have or anything specific about
it. Then when they show their total ignorance, ask them if they have ever bothered to do any research so as to understand your situation better. Probably the answer there will be no again. This might put things into perspective for them, but like I said you have to be blunt and almost angry about
it to get the message across.
ElpisUnbreakable
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Posted 11/25/2015 12:17 PM (GMT -5)
I thought about
it and I think the best thing to do is ask them not to talk about
my health this year.
Last Thanksgiving got really really ugly. I got in a big fight with my sister because I said to my dad "there are days I wish it was cancer." My sister jumped all over me and told me that my illness was not nearly as bad as cancer because it did not kill people. Bla bla bla. I admit that it was an awful thing for me to say to a cancer survivor but I kind of lost my composure when he gave me the "at least it is not cancer" lecture yet again. (And my Mom chastised me for not wearing Depends daily.) I love family gatherings!
Poppie
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Posted 11/25/2015 12:56 PM (GMT -5)
Oh dear, no wonder you feel upset, how insensitive and downright thoughtless, it sounds like they have no idea how hurtful this response is, and so it is best to gently let them know before you blow your top!!
Dikid
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Posted 11/25/2015 2:14 PM (GMT -5)
Are you sure are familie are not related? Just a little ?
Ugh it's so frustrating and I am really sorry you are going through this.
You might or might not want to pull the remicade is chemotherapy too card bla bla bla.
Or you might want to ask them if they crapped out quarts of blood and mucous and if each BM feels like passing a balloon filled with hot lava. And if they are so tired that the only way they can function is to get bags of blood. And if they have so much inflamation in their colon they don't know the difference between gas/mucous or a real BM. Ask them if they had to wear pull ups when they were your age. Ask them how they think they would feel if they had an invisible disease that was terribly painful and debilitating and the people who should be supporting them won't support them but instead accuse them of being * insert what they call you ( lazy, faker, drama queen , hypochondriac are what I get)
But the key with that speech is to say it quietly and calmly and even if they look upset just keep plowing on. And then look at them and wait for them to stumble for an answer. I also probably wouldn't do it in front of 30 people. Maybe like 2-4 of the main problem people.
Good luck and us know what happens.
NiceCupOfTea
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Posted 11/25/2015 4:34 PM (GMT -5)
I used to think of cancer as something that either killed you or it didn't - and if it didn't, you were free of it for life. I've been chastened to learn how often cancer does come back.
If it wasn't for that, though, then I could probably say at this stage I'd rather have had bowel cancer and genuinely mean it. After 15 years of this nonsense, I am absolutely tired of it. What's more it's a disease which gets literally zero sympathy from 99% of people. If anyone tried to pull the "but at least it's not cancer" card on me, I would glare at them with pure hate in my eyes.
ewafromwarsaw
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Posted 11/25/2015 6:56 PM (GMT -5)
your parents are absolutely right, we should have a distance and be aware of the fact that so many people would do everything to change places with us. And - our disease may become curable soon and then many people will surely die at the prospect of us being cured for good
quincy
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Posted 11/25/2015 7:50 PM (GMT -5)
Oh pshaw, Ewa. UC won't be cured, and UC to make light of it compared to others makes you sound like a martyr.
Anyone who says things could be worse, etc is telling you to shut about
your woes and complaints because THEY don't want to hear it.
Never, ever, ever negate or lessen anothers' suffering or illness by comparing it to another. While any diseases subjectively seem to be deemed worse or better than or nothing at all.....it's rude, disrespectful and down right demeaning to say such a thing in response.
One can keep things in perspective objectively, but there's no need to compare for reasons to belittle another. It's a form of bullying...in truth.
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pb4
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Posted 11/25/2015 8:43 PM (GMT -5)
Dealing with insensitive and ignorant comments like that can be frustrating but consider the source of where those types of stupid comments come from...people that think like that aren't worth stressing over by any means....sometimes people will learn the hard way too for saying such stupid things like that.
Coral
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Posted 11/25/2015 9:30 PM (GMT -5)
My daughter was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when she was 8 (24 now) and when she was younger she would get the comments did you eat too much sugar, you can't eat that, the lunch monitor wouldn't let her use the restroom frequent urination with highs, wouldn't give her lunch one day after she did a shot of insulin because there was no money left (they never told me) and compared to type 2 which is different then type 1. It was hurtful to her but I would tell her it's their problem and she can set them straight or ignore them it was up to her and I think that helped get her the power. I myself try not to tell anyone about
my uc and only when I'm in a bad flare of 20 + times a day that there is no way they wouldn't notice do I even let on that I'm in a flare usually I don't let anyone know I'm flaring if I can which is probably not the best way to handle it I guess part denial part embarrassment especially when accidents happen.
ewafromwarsaw
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Posted 11/26/2015 5:14 AM (GMT -5)
no i don't agree with you Quincy :) if someone says things like that e.g. "at least it's not...." etc, i take it as a way to alleviate the frustration resulting from someone's illness. As far as I've (unfortunately) noticed, very few people would say it just because they are mostly happy to hear that someone is suffering. Most people would rather say things like that "I imagine how much you suffer, it's such a horrible horrible disease leading directly to cancer etc..." And do you think they are compassionate? i really doubt it. I once met a young woman diagnosed with uc. She told me a story about
her sister who had always been pathologically jealous of her so when she heard about
her sister's diagnosis, she really had the prime time of her life. Suddenly, after one year, it turned out that it wasn't really uc but a bacterial infection and the woman was healthy. Her sister immediately started having health problems, first she was diagnosed with diabetes and finally with some serious neurological disease. Of course it can be unrelated, but this woman is more than sure that this sudden decline of her sister's health has been caused by the change of uc diagnosis.
ewafromwarsaw
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Posted 11/26/2015 5:18 AM (GMT -5)
and BTW, I support my claim that uc will be cured soon :)
Andreita
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Posted 11/26/2015 8:27 AM (GMT -5)
Cancer can be cured. UC cannot.
Red_34
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Posted 11/26/2015 8:51 AM (GMT -5)
Some family members can be cruel in their comments and not even realize it. My SIL is that way. She treats me as if I'm a hypochondriac but when she gets something it's like the world is ending. Sometimes I go off on her and sometimes I just let it go, depends on my mood that day. But it's still frustrating just the same.
quincy
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Posted 11/26/2015 12:52 PM (GMT -5)
Thankfuly, Ewa, you're not a family member. You'd not like my response in person.
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iPoop
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Posted 11/26/2015 6:31 PM (GMT -5)
At least it's not a sharknado
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I absolutely love cheesy horror films
ElpisUnbreakable
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Posted 11/28/2015 3:36 PM (GMT -5)
Just wanted to let you guys know that I survived Thanksgiving without any cancer lectures. My older sister did look at me and say, "You are so lucky to be so thin. I guess that is a benefit of Ulcerative Colitis." errrrrrrrr ok.
Anyway, I am glad to know that I am not the only one with family members who just don't get it. At least I can laugh it off. A cure for UC? God, I hope so. I would like to gain enough weight to not be so "thin" and "lucky."
Hope everyone had a drama free Thanksgiving.
Dikid
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Posted 11/28/2015 7:03 PM (GMT -5)
I'm glad it wasn't too bad and tell your sister that she is lucky she doesn't have UC cuz she is fat. Maybe that will shut her up.
L Rachel
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Posted 11/28/2015 10:10 PM (GMT -5)
I'm glad you survived Thanksgiving. I've kind of started cutting the people who don't understand the basics of empathy out of my life. I'll put up with a handful of insensitive nonsense comments after disclosing my UC, but that's it. I have fewer friends, but they're better friends.
I've said, "Don't pretend to have any idea what I'm going through" to family members a few times. It generally shuts them up.
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