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Posted 2/24/2008 3:42 PM (GMT -5)

I just got my shipment of Zico 100% natural coconut water the other day from Amazon and the stuff doesnt taste that great although better when cold, however, I do notice some improvement already.  I also started the SCD today and given the Zico is 100% natural I think it is okay to have.  I had a bunch of fruit and just cooked some salmon for lunch.  I've tried the SCD last year but I was still having bad symptoms so now that I am in remission and have more energy I think I can give it a better shot.  My previous attempt was short-lived.  I'm nervous though because I know it is going to require intense discipline and work to keep it going but I am also aware that it "should" get easier.  Food has always been a weakness of mine so it will be a constant battle for a good while.  I've been at 2-3 bms a day, some formed, some not (especially when I eat fried foods and the like), no blood, slight urgency at times!  I also have a small peri-anal fistula and it is a real pain in the a#$ (pun intended!)  So i'm giving the SCD a good shot before looking at an immunosuppresant which is a conventional technique to get the fistula to heal, although reoccurence is an issue.  I'm just sick of being sick of being of being sick etc etc etc.... So I am going to give this SCD thing a whole-hearted try.  At this point with all this disease has taken from me, I'm ready to do what I got to do.  Sorry for the rant!  Any feedback on positive SCD experiences would be great inspiration!  I believe this diet can help some achieve and retain remission, although given how tough it is remaining faithful will be something short of a miracle but I am hopeful something good can come of it.  All the best!  - Sal

Posted 2/24/2008 7:05 PM (GMT -5)
I tried the SCD faithfully for about a year, got discouraged and got off it, and have sorta been back and forth with it since then. The thing that bothered me is there were forbidden foods that didn't seem to be a problem for me and allowables that did cause problems. At the time I was doing it, (several years ago) a lot of the "old timers" on the mailing list were very fanatical and their attitude and reactions to some of the newbies turned me off.

Eventually, through much trial and error, I've found that a modified version of the SCD really does work best for me - basically a low carb diet with lots of healthy fats. In general, I avoid or greatly limit grains - especially gluten grains, starches, dairy and sugars. I also learned how to eat simply on my modified SCD so I don't wear myself out cooking tons of stuff from scratch.

I believe dietary modifications, combined with probiotics and other natural therapies, has allowed me to maintain long-term remission with only slight flare ups when I get lax with my diet.
Posted 5/3/2017 7:57 PM (GMT -5)
Bad news, coconut water is not legal. It has water from young and right coconuts similar to how eating green bananas is not legal
Posted 5/4/2017 3:21 AM (GMT -5)
I've had good success with SCD, relying on it to help stabilise and improve remission (I used to have abdominal pain and very watery stools even in remission). It hasn't been a straight-line of improvement which has made it harder to be sure I was doing the right thing, but two years later, I can see slow and steady progress that has led me to being much more stable.

As for the temptation to eat things that aren't on the diet, I think if you see actual progress from it, you'll find it easier not to cheat. I had been a dedicated omnivore before trying SCD and it was an adjustment, but the fact that when I stick to it my bowels seem happier has made it easier. And now that I've been on it for 2 years, I find I don't much miss most things I used to eat (home made bread does still smell wonderful).

If you struggle to stick with the diet, do find a treat that is "legal" (hate that term) that you like and can eat when you have cravings. For me, it's chunky peanut butter. I also make a cashew butter cookie that tastes not unlike a real cookie.

I'd say SCD is certainly worth trying. It helps some. But if it isn't working, avoid the rabbit hole of the internet that tells you you're just not doing it properly--it's bad for your mental health and makes no sense. SCD clearly doesn't work for everyone.
Posted 5/4/2017 3:23 AM (GMT -5)
I've had good success with SCD, relying on it to help stabilise and improve remission (I used to have abdominal pain and very watery stools even in remission). It hasn't been a straight-line of improvement which has made it harder to be sure I was doing the right thing, but two years later, I can see slow and steady progress that has led me to being much more stable.

As for the temptation to eat things that aren't on the diet, I think if you see actual progress from it, you'll find it easier not to cheat. I had been a dedicated omnivore before trying SCD and it was an adjustment, but the fact that when I stick to it my bowels seem happier has made it easier. And now that I've been on it for 2 years, I find I don't much miss most things I used to eat (home made bread does still smell wonderful).

If you struggle to stick with the diet, do find a treat that is "legal" (hate that term) that you like and can eat when you have cravings. For me, it's chunky peanut butter. I also make a cashew butter cookie that tastes not unlike a real cookie.

I'd say SCD is certainly worth trying. It helps some. But if it isn't working, avoid the rabbit hole of the internet that tells you you're just not doing it properly--it's bad for your mental health and makes no sense. SCD clearly doesn't work for everyone.
Posted 5/4/2017 12:29 PM (GMT -5)
I looked at the SCD website and there is nothing about coconut water. Coconuts are legal as well as coconut milk (but only after you've been on the diet for a while and feeling good).

Where did you see that it was not allowed?
Posted 5/4/2017 10:21 PM (GMT -5)
Stay away from coconut water on SCD. I literally just went through this. My nutropath said it's a simple sugar and not SCD legel and the very next day after stopping it i started to feel better.
Posted 5/4/2017 11:11 PM (GMT -5)
Thanks! This is great to know, guys! I was drinking it very ocassionally and did not know. It does have a ton of sugar in it.
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