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Posted 5/19/2021 2:51 PM (GMT -5)
My 3 surgeries went well in 2018. No complications until kidney stones. Never had them before surgery. Just had my 4th stone attack in 2 years. This one was 4 months after last one in same kidney(can u say unbelievable?). Had stent/laser/stent with all of them. Pain is incredible until they shoot u with morphine(wonder med). So really have to clamp down on diet. No chocolate,Spinach,nuts,less salt,careful with the calcium etc etc etc and more WATER water water. Not easy but no choice. I would still do colon surgery even if I knew about stones. Hope you all are well or on journey to be well. 85 degrees in NYC today/low humidity so out working on a beautiful day Be well. God bless
Posted 5/19/2021 8:33 PM (GMT -5)
3X,
Sorry you are going thru this. Were you in the hospital? Did they laser this one too?

My urologist told me that it was just part of aging and not to worry about it right now. (I may have to look for a new guy)

I just had a modified APR. They removed Hartmanns pouch, Rectum and left a small sliver of the anus. They did not remove or blast my kidney stones. Urologist said it looked like they were still attached so they left them alone. I had constant kidney infections, now I am supposed to wait and see. I am disappointed. It was in the surgery plan...but that changed once they knocked me out.

Just one more thing these wonderful diseases keep giving....BUT....like you....I would have my 3 stoma surgeries again in a heartbeat. Quality of life is so important.

I hope you feel better soon.

Clo
Posted 5/19/2021 9:27 PM (GMT -5)
So sorry that you’ve experienced all this. Have they done any tests to see what type of stones you have? Sometimes that can tell them if you need to increase more acidic drinks- ie- I have to try and drink more OJ, cranberry juice, etc. They can also do a 24 hour urine test to see what your output is- I can’t remember what that tests for- maybe the type of kidney stone.

What is the reason for the no chocolate, spinach, etc? Did they say anything specifically?
Posted 5/20/2021 12:49 PM (GMT -5)
Take good care, 3TC! I've heard in yrs past from males with kidney stone problems that they got medical advice to watch calcium intake plus drink lots of plain water daily. (Hubby of a friend thought that drinking beer would save him, LOL.) Let us know how you're doing. / Old Hat
Posted 5/21/2021 8:50 PM (GMT -5)
Thank Clo,Dog and Hat. Chocalate,spinach,nuts,colas. There in top 10 of things not to eat. Any food high in oxolates is bad. Not having colon means body not absorbing water/liquids as much. Kidneys need to be flushed. Less liquid intake isn't good for kidneys hence stones. More water/less oxalates
Posted 5/22/2021 10:13 AM (GMT -5)
Ugh I'm so sorry. You have my sympathies. I think kidney stone pain is the worst pain in the world. I had stones for the first time a year ago. Too big to pass, got lodged in my left ureter, needed surgery. But it took them 4 days to get me to the operating room. I never knew such levels of pain could exist in my body without actually killing me. All I could do was scream and roll around until they gave me more morphine. They told me after that that I'm a "stone former" and to be careful in the future. Oh joy. I NEVER want to experience that pain again.

The main thing I do now is make sure I get enough citrate every day, from orange juice or supplements. Does bowel surgery increase stone formation, somehow? I'm guessing dehydration plays a role. I avoid spinach like the plague. It's not very nutritious anyway. If I cook kale, collards, or chard, I boil them first in water and then throw away that water. This gets rid of a lot of oxalate.
Posted 5/22/2021 11:32 AM (GMT -5)
I am sorry to hear you're going through this again. I don't have much advice personally because I've never had one but it sounds like you've gotten a lot of good advice. I really hope something helps so you can find a way to prevent them in the future. I hope you're doing better.
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