probiotics and die off

It's key to take probiotics daily and indefinitely regardless if you're flaring or not, it should become a part of your everyday life...when you stop taking probiotics for any amount of time it gives the bad bacteria a chance to over-grow and IBDers are prone to bacterial over-growth which is why probiotics daily and indefinitely are essential...taken daily helps keep the flora balanced.

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"The Herxheimer (die off) reaction occurs when large quantities of toxins are released into the body as bacteria die, due to antibiotic or antifungal treatment.

Typically the death of these bacteria and the associated release of endotoxins occurs faster than the body can remove the toxins via the natural detoxification process performed by the kidneys and liver. It is manifested by fever, chills, headache, myalgia (muscle pain), and exacerbation of skin lesions. Duration in syphilis is normally only a few hours but can be much longer in other diseases. The intensity of the reaction reflects the intensity of inflammation present."

So when you repopulate the gut with good bacteria at high doses a kinda battle takes place and the body needs to release the assoicated toxins. This casues the above symptoms

interesting...never heard of this "die off" stuff. Anyways i take high dosages of probiotics and never felt better. So i guess no "die off' side effects here.

Do you feel there is a connection between internal fungal infection and skin or mucous membrane fungal infections and UC?

I have not had many yeast infections in my life like some women but I have a LOT of fungus that grows under my breasts and other dark, damp places that I clear up with Miconazole. I am usually treating it someplace. Once many years ago - 1970's I had fungus infection on my knee and AF doctors took pictures for a medical journal as they considered it "rare".

ElaineNY

Try not taking high doses of probiotics every once and a while but take them on a lower count maintenance level every day. This keeps the "die off" at bay due to overgrowth of gut baddies held in check. The "spike" in large doses of probiotics steals food from all gut ecology and can be a factor in your condition as it starves off undesirables.

Candida alone contains over 150 toxic metabolic byproducts, and some forms of bad bacteria in the gut ecology secrete substances that can really affect how you feel. The trick is to keep these ever-present opportunists in check regardless of your current health status. Your body is constantly at war with these organisms and anti-fungal or not, if your body wins a few battles with its antibodies and slaughters by the billions, "die off" is most assuredly going to occur.