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Posted 7/8/2015 5:44 PM (GMT -5)

Marauder93 said...

Benny Stringer said...
I dont completely agree if its light smoking compared to on and off different meds all the time personally. But glad to hear your take on it.

Well its an empirical fact that smoking is more toxic and hazardous than any meds used for UC... I mean you gotta do what you gotta do, but dont fool yourself into thinking that smoking is a safer alternative to traditional medicine.

Is it really? Citation please.
Posted 7/8/2015 6:13 PM (GMT -5)
LOL, ya I'd like to see citations too, considering biologics must be toxic in their own way if they can increase the risk of cancer hmmm, just like smoking. If anything they're probably more closely linked to being just as bad as man-made meds.
Posted 7/8/2015 7:41 PM (GMT -5)

pb4 said...
LOL, ya I'd like to see citations too, considering biologics must be toxic in their own way if they can increase the risk of cancer hmmm, just like smoking. If anything they're probably more closely linked to being just as bad as man-made meds.

You can literally look up the past 30 years of smoking research to see how toxic the chemicals in cigs are.

EDIT: As for the safety of UC meds, you can look up all of their clinical trials and studies, especially their pre-approval studies and pharmacological characterisations.

Biologics are NOT toxic. Their association with cancers are also being brought into question with more recent research. Theres a reason why biologics can be taken for your lifetime while smoking is argued against by EVERY medical professional, researcher, and journal... Thought this would be quite obvious

Post Edited (Marauder93) : 7/8/2015 6:49:36 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/8/2015 8:48 PM (GMT -5)
I really believe that there is a tremendous difference between smoking a pack a day and 5 cigarettes a day. And the two can't be compare.

We have to keep in mind that the risk evaluation of getting diseases from smoking is an evaluation of the usual average smoker who in general smokes a pack a day. Most people I know who smoke are having more than 17 cigarettes a day. Furthermore, many that have alcohol problems or drug dependency problems also smoke.

I am not saying smoking is not bad. But to some extent we have to consider all the facts when looking at options. Amounts of cigarettes a day, life style and so on have to be brought in the picture. For sure, smoking, drinking, bad eating and not exercising is a winning cancer combination. Eating well, exercising, not drinking and smoking 5 cigarettes a day is totally different situations. Well of course my choice would be trying nicotine substitutes they may work really well.

With UC come, sometimes, difficult choices. They are very hard to make because nothing is clear cut.
Posted 7/8/2015 8:51 PM (GMT -5)
Well, whatever, there are plenty of heavy smokers that have outlived plenty of non-smokers due to illness...should be obvious that not everyone that is a heavy smoker necessarily dies as a result.
Posted 7/9/2015 10:52 AM (GMT -5)
In the middle of my flare I actually tried smoking cigarettes a few days in a row, that's how desperate I was. It didn't work and it made my flare worse. I guess it's true what they say about having to be a true former smoker, and I wasn't.

But I tell you... if it were a choice between tobacco and prednisone, I'd take tobacco any day. At least 40% of my post-flare recovery is from what prednisone has done to my body. I've had major weight loss, psychological changes, loss of energy, heart palpitations, myoclonic seizures, pseudostroke, tremors, insomnia, and a host of other problems because of this drug. And it didn't really help my flare at all.

If I could wear a nicotine patch, vaporize, or just smoke organic tobacco and have my flare go away, I'd happily do that! Prednisone is evil, and the other UC drugs are not much better.
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